CSSS 2008 Santa Fe-After Hours

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Scheduled Fun

Near Future

Board Games

Let's get more people this time. Suggest a time if you're got the interest.

Case studies in complexity: The Wire

Start time: 9pm, Monday, 6/9, lower dorms common area (upstairs or downstairs)

I have obtained the DVD box set of Season 4 of The Wire. This show has already come up in several conversations I've had at this course, and pertains to such topics as:

  • How do you evolve an adaptive organization? (In Baltimore, you don't, apparently)
  • How does institutional dysfunction lead to complex functional systems?
  • What educational systems can have an impact on kids in low-income backgrounds ("corner kids"?)
  • How can informed, ethical people deal with the corrupt political process?
  • How do you combine Charles Dickens]-style extended novelistic narrative arcs with Michael Mann-style asskicking?

A couple of points. First, this show is immersive, and incredibly awesome. A nonlinear consequence of this is that people who haven't already become invested in the show may be hesitant to jump in with the fourth season. I'd like to encourage everyone to give it a shot who may be interested; it's far enough ahead that I think it actually won't spoil it for you if you later go back to the beginning. And this season is of particular interest for many of the issues I've discussed here, since it particularly focuses both on the educational system and electoral politics. The creators, David Simon and Ed Burns, both have had extensive real-life experience in the city of Baltimore's police system (Burns was a homicide detective for many years), political system (Simon was a political reporter) and educational systems. A lot of the plot points come from real life events, and the characterization is better than anything I've ever seen on TV.

I'll start Monday 6/9 (punted from Sunday b/c of NBA Finals) and update this space to schedule continuations. There are 13 episodes this season, so it'll take 4 or 5 goes, at least, to get through it.

Cheers, Sayres 19:06, 8 June 2008 (MDT)

Wednesday June 11

Albuquerque Isotopes Baseball Game

Any interest in going to see an Albuquerque Isotopes baseball game? Next Wednesday June 11 might be a good day since I don't think there are any after hours events scheduled. Game time is 7pm so we could leave after class and easily make it on time. Looks like tickets are $9 and $11 (plus $3 online fee).

List your name if you want to attend. Let me know by Sunday and I'll buy the tickets.

Justin Darkoch

Please count me in - Mauricio

I'll come, too. Also, I can drive as the minivan fits 6 people. - Cathy

in for the isotopes Walt


Activities and Interests

Euro championship 2008

The European championship just started yesterday (and the swiss just got defeated! LoL). What matches do we want to see? I guess there's an Italy - France we cannot avoid!

Problem: matches are at 10am or 12:45am (local time). How to see them without interfering with the classes?

Put matches you are interested in here:

France vs Italy - 17/06 12:45am Giovanni

More generally all the games of the group C Jeremie France vs Romania - 17/06 10:45am Italy vs Holland - 17/06 12:45am

We can setup to see the replay of a particular game after classes provided we don't know the result already. Replay games are free and live games 3 euros in internet. For games on Saturday or Sunday we can go to a bar downtown. Mauricio

Discovering the surroundings

Interested in discovering the surroundings? The meaning of "surrounding" is scale-free - this could be just Los Alamos but maybe also as far as the Grand Canyon. Are you interested? Got some ideas? Go here and write it down.

Hiking Activities


We are now 25 people joining the hike. We have 3 cars available and have hired two vans. That means there should be still room for some more. I can drive one of the rentals, but need one more driver.

I suggest:

We leave from the parking lot at 10.00am. Then we drive to Los Alamos and spend a little time there, museum for the interested, and finish off with lunch. (Also try to schedule dinner with som proper dinner place).

Meet in Bandelier at 01.00pm. (If someone are late, they can join here). Hike until sometime in the evening. There are many routes, so there is some choice of freedom.

Meet at parking lot at 06.00pm and head off for dinner.

Hopefully, Finish the night in the hot springs (bring towels and swim clothes, or go nude).

Ok. This is just a tentative plan. We'll improvise as we go along. Feel free to be suggestive.

Spread the words as not everyone are linked up to the net.


Thanks Kolbjørn! Sounds a great pick. This Saturday would be great as most CSSSers are fired up and ready to go. I will post a message on our Facebook group for Saturday as well.



- Start with a long hike in the Bandelier National Park. It is faboulous for slow walking and talking. - Continue with Bradbury Science museum in Los Alamos and a short Los Alamos sightseeing. - Dinner in Los Alamos. - A night dip and some cold beers in the magnificent hot springs.

Anyone interested in going away this weekend, saturday perhaps? It would be good to know if we have enough people with cars interested. Otherwise we need to check out rental cars. Please notify your interest at Doodle:

Here are links:


Hola CSSS'ers,

Let's get together and explore the beauty and wilderness of Santa Fe's mountains!

Start by joining our Facebook group:

CSSS'08 Hiking Group

Hasta la vista! Carlos

I've always wanted to see the Native American cliff dwellings. There are ruins near Santa Fe!


Wayne continues his tireless effort to get a group in to a rehearsal; probably Tuesday, June 24. It would be late (9pm - midnight) and during "crunch time", but on the other hand definitely worth it, so we just need to plan ahead a bit. In the interim, this looks adorable, and might be an option for next weekend.

Santa Fe Complex (Downtown in the Railyard)

When you are downtown, feel free to use the new Santa Fe Complex as a home away from St. John's. SFComplex is a non-profit dedicated to applied complexity, urban planning and computational art. We have a large 4000 square foot common space in the railyard where the train locomotives used to be repaired. In the space are projection screens and broadband access. Use the space for CSSS projects, film screenings, ad-hoc lectures or meeting others in Santa Fe in the Applied Complexity space. Or, just play some music and hang out into the wee hours. The address is 632 Agua Fria. More info at Want to know more, contact Stephen Guerin at (505)577-5828 or Owen Densmore (505)570-0168.

Get A Bike (for the month)

Get a bicycle to ride around while in Santa Fe from a bike collective place called Chain Breaker. Their website is under maintenance right now, but here's some info on them.

Board Games

I’ve seen a couple of other folks have interests in playing board games. It would be fun to get folks together to play some evenings. I’m always up for learning a new game and meeting other players. I’m going to bring a few that are small and compact enough to travel. Maybe others can bring some too? Cheers, Devin

I started a list so we know what will be in Santa Fe. Add to the list if you'll bring it with you. Board Game List

Ultimate Frisbee

I (Nish) brought a disc and cones to play some Ultimate on the weekends (or after class). I'm happy to just throw around as well. Ultimate is, or can be, super casual and a lot of fun. Grab me some time if you want to throw (I always have a disc nearby) or if you're interested in playing a game (no prior experience necessary).

Hi Nish! I just checked this ultimate frisbee on youtube. Kinda cool game!!! I think it should be played here in the morning--it will be too windy after the class.... Rio

Local Music

I love live music, especially folk/bluegrass. I did some quick searching and there are a few shows I think I will go to this month in Santa Fe:

June 7, 1PM: Sharon Gilchrist at Cowgirl

June 20, evening: Raising Cane

Those are just the two I've found, I'm up for whatever


Ten Thousand Waves is very close to St. John's. Any interest?

Definitely. Kathleen

Me too! Peter

*Cough* *Cough* Drinking

Well, let's be honest, we all drink :) To facilitate the great discussions that occur with the act of imbibing, I'm volunteering to be our "Beer Baron". I will drive to Albertson's every day or two and pick up beer and any booze folks want me to. Please indicate your preferences. Every night, starting around 9pm, you will find folks in the Lower Commons (near the muse dorms) hanging out, drinking, playing (Swiffer) pool and Foos(pool)ball. I'm told the Upper Commons have pool cues and foosballs we may want to "steal" at night. Stop by whenever you would like and chip in a few bucks to help keep my costs down :)

 Update: Unfortunately, I was warned Wednesday evening by a St. John's student that keeping beer in the fridge in
 the Lower Commons may result in said beer being stolen. So most of the beer is being stored in my room (Polyhymnia
 15). I will try and move it to the fridge each evening between 8 and 9PM, if I'm on campus. Sorry for the
 Further update: For St. John's sake and our own, let's also not be striving for crazy parties or anything. Just
 social activities with reasonable social drinking :) Thanks for your cooperation.



A few of us have started what we hope is a bi-weekly (or more!) game of basketball. So far we've been playing between the end of classes and dinner (4:45 to 5:30ish), but this is mutable. I will update this page as soon as we have specific plans to play again. Email me (David Foster) if you have any questions. My email address is on my page. If your question is "I am not very good", the answer is: "Neither are we."

I'm down for some hoops action (that time at Duke has to be good for something), let me know when you guys are playing - Justin

Old/Completed fun

Early Arrivals

Wednesday June 4

Board Game evening (around 8pm)

Location: Common Room (ground floor) #37 on the map

Organizer: Devin

Looks like Wednesday might be the first unscheduled evening, so let’s meet up! Interested folks should bring any games they have or just show up ready to play. Let's see if we can take over the Common Room (lower floor) in the lower dorm area. I really enjoy teaching new players and I’ve brought along several that take only minutes to learn, so come join even if you’re just looking for a way to pass some time. Also, I brought several games that can accommodate a large number of people (up to 8 people).